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cuT - uP : cultuRe : A few pre-WEB Reference Points ...
DICKIE GOODMAN "The Flying Saucer" 1956
PHOTOCOPY MACHINES
MAIL ART
CASSETTE CULTURE
OPTION mag
UNSOUND mag
TOUCH mags/cassettes
RESEARCH magazine
MYSTERY TAPES
LEE PERRY Productions
CAN & HOLGER CZUKAY
Byrne&Eno's
MY LIFE IN THE BUSH OF GHOSTS
MUSICWORKS Magazines/cassettes
BREAKTHROUGH IN GREY ROOM
INDUSTRIAL MUSIC
PLUNDERPHONICS
NEGATIVLAND
Paul's Boutique
earlyTURNTABLISM
early APHEX
what else?

Raiding the 20th Century mix by DJ Food
http://www.djfood.org

DJ Food - Raiding the 20th Century
Words & Music Expansion
(starring Paul Morley and a cast of thousands)
Pt 1 - Once Upon A Time:
20th Century Fox theme intro
Negativland - Downloading (Seeland)
MCSleazy / Franzie Boys - Triple Take (Half Inch Recordings 12")
DJ BC - Surebladi (mp3)
Danger Mouse - Encore (CD)
Wayne Butane - Elderly (Sucks Bigtime)
Big City Orchestra - Bulldog (The Beatlerape)
Jay-Z - Encore (accapella) (Roc A Fella)
The Beatles - Glass Onion (2 versions) (Apple LP)
Avril Plays The Beatles (mp3)
Loo and Placido - Safari Love (mp3)
Jrb - Busta vs Steptoe & Son (mp3)
Loo & Placido - Kids Will Rock You (mp3)
Braces Tower - Special Child (mp3)
Exactshit - Crazy (CDR)
Cropstar - Crazy Prado (mp3)
Tacteel vs Britney - Overprotected (CD-R)
Will Smith vs Mr Trick - Nod Ya Head (Boot Camp 7")
Osymyso - Intro inspection (Radar 12")
fLeXuS - It Ain't Nothin' (CD-R)
Evolution Control Committee - Spandau Fillet (Seeland CD)
Go Home Productions - Turn Out The Light Slave And Give Me Some Rhythm (mp3)
Go Home Productions - Work It Out With A Foxy Lady (mp3)
Beyonce - Crazy In Love (poj mix) (mp3)
Skkatter - Diddy (mp3)
Wobbly - Yo Yo Yo Yoyo, Hey... (Wild Why)
Frenchbloke & Son - Sound of da S Club (CD-R)
Lemon Jelly - Soft Rock (LJ 7")
dsico - Bille Jean Dancehall Edit (mp3)
People Like Us - Nobody Does (ubuweb mp3)
2 Many Djs - Smells Like Booty (mp3)
fLeXuS - White Love (CD - R)
Evil Twin - The Lady & The Lake (CD-R)
Justin Timberlake - Like I Love U (Ochre remix) (mp3)
Osymyso - Intro Expansion Pt 2 (mp3)
Go Home Productions. - Ray Of Gob (Half Inch Recordings 12")
Madonna - WTF? (mp3)
Player - Angel of Theft (Blood 12")
Osymyso - Wegoddim (mp3)
Flashbulb - Mama Said Knock You Out (mp3)
Pt 2 - The Time Before Time:
Alvin Lucier - I Am Sitting In A Room (Lovely Music Ltd CD)
Pierre Schaeffer - Etude aux Chemins De Fer (EMF Media CD)
Pierre Henry - Souffle 1 (Phillips / 21st Century Prospective Siecle LP)
PM - 1954 - Varese - Deserts (Columbia LP)
John Cage - Imaginary Landscape No.1 (Hungeroton CD)
William Burroughs - Origin and Theory of the Tape Cut-Ups (Sub Rosa CD)
Coldcut (Let Us Play LP outro) (Ninja Tune LP)
James Tenney - Collage no.1 (Blue Suede) (New World Records CD)
Marshall McLuhan - The Medium Is The Massage (Columbia LP)
Steve Reich - It's Gonna Rain (Odyssey/Music of Our Time LP)
The Monkees - Head Opening Ceremony (Rhino LP)
Frank Zappa - Lumpy Gravy (Verve LP)
John Rydgren - Christmas Montage (Silhouette Segments LP)
Holger Czukay & Rolf Dammers - Boat - Woman - Song (Spoon LP)
Radiophonic Workshop - Major Bloodnock's Stomach (BBC Records LP)
The Beatles - Revolution No.9 (Capitol LP)
Radiophonic Workshop - Talk Out (BBC Records LP)
Kenny Everett Musical Works - (acetate / mp3)
Pt 3 - Say Kids, What Time Is It?
Grandwizard Theodore & Kevie Kev Rockwell - Military Cut - Scratch Mix (Animal Records LP)
Grandwizard Theodore Speaks (Hip Hop Slam CD)
Grandmaster Flash in Fab 5 Freddy's kitchen from Wildstyle (DVD rip)
Monica Lynch interviews Grandmaster Flash for WFMU (mp3)
(Orig.) Big Apple Productions Vol. 2 - Genius At Work (J & T Records 12")
The Art of Noise - Close (To The Edit) (ZTT 12")
Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - Adventures On The Wheels of Steel (Sugarhill 12")
Cold Crush Brothers vs The Fantastic 5MCs (Music of Life LP)
Malcolm McLaren - Buffalo Gals - (Charisma 12")
Double D & Steinski - Lesson 2 (The James Brown Mix) (Disconet 12")
Double D & Steinski - The Payoff Mix (aka Lesson 1) (Disconet 12")
Big Apple Productions - Genius At Work Vol. 2 (J & T Records 12")
Mr. K (aka Danny Krivit) - Rock The House (T.D. Records Inc. 12")
Double D & Steinski - Lesson 3 (The History of Hip Hop) (Tommy Boy 12")
Buchannan & Goodman - Flying Saucer Pt.1 (Cash Records LP)
Bomb The Bass - Beat Dis (Mister-Ron/Rhythm King 12")
Steinski & Mass Media - The Motorcade Sped On (NME 7")
Steinski radio interview with Jon Nelson from Some Assembly Required (mp3)
Coldcut - Say Kids, What Time Is It? (White Label 12")
Coldcut - Beats & Pieces (Ahead Of Our Time 12")
Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full (Coldcut Seven Minutes of Madness mix) (4th & Broadway 12")
M/A/R/R/S - Pump Up The Volume (4AD 12")
Eric B & Rakim - Micheal Jackson Got Soul (mp3)
Think Tank - Hack One (The Internet Worm mix) (Hakattack Records 12")
Big Apple Productions - Genius At Work Vol. 2 (J & T Records 12")
3D - Tommy Boy megamix (Tommy Boy LP)
Axel F - The Latin Rascals (Streetheat 12")
Arthur Baker - Breaker's Revenge (Atlantic 12")
Kurtis Blow - America (Dub Mix) (Mercury LP)
Cindy Mizelle - This Could Be The Night (Atlantic LP)
Rochelle - My Magic Man (Machine Gun Dub) (Warner Bros 12")
Word of Mouth & DJ Cheese - King Kut (Bonus Beats) (Beauty & The Beat 12")
T La Rock - This Beat Kicks (Fresh Records LP)
Tricky Tee - Leave It To The Drums (Dub) (Sleeping Bag 12")
Mantronix - Bassline (Stretched) (10 Records 12")
Mantronix - Mega-Mix (from The Album) (10 Records LP)
Mantronix - Scream (Primal Scream Dub) (10 Records 12")
Mantronix - Mega-Mix (from Music Madness) (10 Records LP)
T La Rock - Bass Machine (Club Version) (10 Records 12")
T La Rock - Breakin Bells (Omar Santana Edit) (10 Records 12")
Skyywalker's Bass Waves Mega Mixes - Mega Mix 1 (Luke Skyywalker 12")
Matt Black & the Coldcut Crew - The Music Maker (Ahead of Our Time 12")
James Brown - The Payback mix (Coldcut meets the Godfather) (Urban 12")
Mantronix - King of the Beats (Sleeping Bag 12")
Pete Smith & DJ Cesare - Beat Bytes (white label 12")
Dr Funnkenstein & DJ Cash Money - Scratchin' to the Funk Pt.1 (Sound Makers Records 12")
Grandmixer D.ST - American Mega-Mix (CBS 12")
James Brown - Payback (The Final Mixdown) (Urban 12")
Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince - He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper (Jive LP)
DJ Shadow - Lesson 4 (Hollywood Basic 12" Promo)
Hiroshi & Kudo feat. DJ Milo - Return of The Original Artform (Major Force 12")
Derek & Clive - Records (DK re-edit) (Virgin LP/mp3)
De La Soul - Cool Breeze on the Rocks (Tommy Boy LP)
Zeb Rockski & Steiber Twins - The Revenge (B Boys Revenge '97) (Mzee 12")
Bronx Dogs - Tribute To Jazzy Jay (Death Mix) (Kontranand 12")
DJ Format - English Lesson (Bomb Hip Hop Records 12")
Dynamix 2 - Just Give the DJ A Break (Dynamix 12")
Beat Junkies - Scratch Monopoly Pt II (Bomb Hip Hop Records LP)
Mr Dibbs - B Boys Revenge (Turntable Scientifics cassette)
DJ Craze - 1st ITF chamionship set (cassette)
Invisibl Skratch Piklz - Vs Da Klamz Uv Deth (Asphodel 12")
The Herbaliser - Wall Crawling Flying Insect Breaks (Ninja Tune 12")
Cut Chemist - Lesson 6 (The Lecture) (Pickininny 12" EP)
Pt 4 - Time Machine:
Cassetteboy - Fly Me To New York (Barrys Bootlegs CD)
Jive Bunny & The Mastermixers - Swing The Mood (Music Factory12")
Stars On 45 - Stars On 45 (? 12")
The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu - All You Need Is Love (KLF Communications 12")
Age Of Chance - Kisspower (unreleased mix) (FON 12")
Negativland - The Perfect Cut (Good As Gold) (SST LP)
Christian Marclay - Pandora's Box (Organik/RecRec LP)
John Oswald - Way (Plunderphonics CD)
Evolution Control Committee - Rebel Without A Pause (The Whipped Cream mix) (Pickled Egg 7")
John Oswald - Brown (plunderphonics CD)
Tape-beatles - Concern About (Staalplaat CD)
John Oswald - dab (Plunderphonics CD)
Tape-beatles - Short History of the Tape Beatles (Staalplaat CD)
The KLF - Rock Radio Into The Nineties and Beyond (KLF Communications LP)
People Like Us - Sound Escape (Solielmoon Recordings 12")
Negativland - The Letter U & The Numeral 2 (acapella mix) (Seeland 12")
Emergency Broadcast Network - Behaviour Modification / We Will Rock You (TVT Records CDS)
Black Helicopters - Hammered Gods (Leaf 12")
People Like Us - Sound Escape (Solielmoon Recordings 12")
Tape-beatles - Thus (Staalplaat CD)
Forest J. Ackerman - Music For Robots (Science Fiction Records LP)
Pt 5 - Pressed For Time:
Osymyso - Intro Inspection (Radar 12")
The Freelance Hellraiser - A Stroke of Genius (white label 7")
Girls On Top - We Don't Give A Damn About Our Friends (Black Melody 7")
Kurtis Rush - George Gets His Freak On (white label 12")
Copywrong - Too Much Freakin' (mp3)
Girls On Top - Being Scrubbed (Black Melody 7")
2 Many DJs - Dreadlock Woman (white label 12")
Osymyso - Pat n Peg (3 Sevens 12")
The Freelance Hellraiser - Got My Lovely Money (CD-R)
The Freelance Hellraiser - Step On Man (CD-R)
Osymyso - Intro Inspection (Radar 12")
Osymyso - John's Not Mad (mp3)
Picasio - Do You Really Like It? (Barrys Bootlegs 7")
The Freelance Hairdresser - Marshall's Been Snookered (mp3)
Mky - I've Created A Monster (mp3)
B.R.K. - JackoNim (mp3)
Mr On - Breathe, Don't Stop (white label 12")
The Freelance Hellraiser - Can You Lick Shots? (CD-R)
Skkatter - Madonna Is A Filthy Slut (V/Vm Test Records LP)
Madonna - Music (acapella) (Sire12")
Mcsleazy - Don't Call Me Song 2 (mp3)
Wayne Butane - Elderly (Sucks Bigtime)
Girls On Top - I Wanna Dance With Numbers (Black Melody 7")
Kylie - Can't Get You Out Of My Head (Soulwax Electrosoul mix) (PIAS CD)
Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of Blue Monday Live @ the Brits 2002 (mp3)
20th Century Fox theme outro

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re : nude media and MYSTERY TAPES

I think it was Frank Zappa who once said that most people decide they will like or dislike a piece of music BEFORE they even hear it !

In a similar vein, The Mystery Tapes Principle is founded on the belief that what you DON'T KNOW, won't interfere with your primary aesthetic appreciation.

btw
about the current status of MYSTERY TAPES from www.plunderphonics.com :

" In the past it has been our policy to insure that the information about MYSTERY TAPES was obscure, while the process of ordering & obtaining tapes was to be easy & pleasant. No more. For the forthcoming period (of undisclosed duration) we will not tell you how to get MysteryTapes. "

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You can DJ Food's "Raiding the 20th Century" MP3 on UbuWeb:

http://www.ubu.com/sound/dj_food.html

John Oswald's interview on Radio Radio:

http://www.ubu.com/radio/oswald.html

Kenneth Goldsmith Kenneth Goldsmith wrote :

"Needless to say, its name and location cannot be revealed."

Hello Kenneth,

Could you provide more info offline please ?:

dark_matter@sympatico.ca

Cheers & thanks !

interview with Peter Luining

http://www.artificial.dk/articles/luining.htm